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RE: FT Questions.... - Scott Stevenson - 03-23-2017
(03-22-2017, 11:39 PM)LoganX Wrote: Thanks Altamir, but since i'm already planning my training for the next upcoming months like i always do, i just wanna have all the variables possible in hand to do my planning and since like i said by summer it's only food, rest and training for me, i know it will be my best time to give a go for the next year. As you said, i will have plenty of time to experiment on me and my wife to adjust to our ability to recover. Thanks for the reply
Altamir gave you a great response - several great points in there that, indeed have been covered here before.
Unless you have done a good bit of experimenting with two-a-day training (i.e.,, you know you respond really well to it as a major program perturbation), I'd certainly not advise this until you've got several FT Blasts under your belt.
-S
RE: FT Questions.... - thethinker48 - 03-24-2017
Question for Scott or any of you experienced FTers.
I'm running the basic tier 2 version, and feel SUPER drained after just one load+pump workout. The volume level isn't really that extraordinary, but I'm a DCer whose used to training HIT style so each set is taken very seriously, even the ones where you don't fail.
I'm on week 2 of my blast, Would it be wiser to reduce it down to tier 1 or just trudge through and figure out some newer methods to aid recovery?
Diet is on point, 3500 calories on rest days, 4200 on training days. Carbs around training session: 200 on off days, 500 on training days.
RE: FT Questions.... - Altamir - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 09:21 AM)thethinker48 Wrote: Question for Scott or any of you experienced FTers.
I'm running the basic tier 2 version, and feel SUPER drained after just one load+pump workout. The volume level isn't really that extraordinary, but I'm a DCer whose used to training HIT style so each set is taken very seriously, even the ones where you don't fail.
I'm on week 2 of my blast, Would it be wiser to reduce it down to tier 1 or just trudge through and figure out some newer methods to aid recovery?
Diet is on point, 3500 calories on rest days, 4200 on training days. Carbs around training session: 200 on off days, 500 on training days.
Did you run Tier 1? How did it feel?
Just my two cents given the info here. I'd jump down to tier 1 and run that. I personally have tried the whole "trudge through" thing with FT. It wasn't much fun. The "kick the crap out of my log book session after session" thing with FT is a hell of a lot more fun (and I think productive).
RE: FT Questions.... - thethinker48 - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 09:22 PM)Altamir Wrote: Did you run Tier 1? How did it feel?Felt good on tier 1, recovery was good. Almost felt too recovered, so upped a tier.
Just my two cents given the info here. I'd jump down to tier 1 and run that. I personally have tried the whole "trudge through" thing with FT. It wasn't much fun. The "kick the crap out of my log book session after session" thing with FT is a hell of a lot more fun (and I think productive).
I've ran tier 2 for 5 weeks last blast, and did make progress in terms of both size and strength, but I hit a wall hard (mostly because the concept of autoregulation with this program was still sinking in).
To add to this: my pump sets are 30-40 reps platz style where you just go until every nerve gives out, do you think this is contributing to the overreaching aspect, and maybe lower intensity here before lowering total volume?
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RE: FT Questions.... - Altamir - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 10:07 PM)thethinker48 Wrote: Felt good on tier 1, recovery was good. Almost felt too recovered, so upped a tier.
I've ran tier 2 for 5 weeks last blast, and did make progress in terms of both size and strength, but I hit a wall hard (mostly because the concept of autoregulation with this program was still sinking in).
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Makes sense to me given that you could probably run your blasts at a mix of 1 and 2. Sort of auto-regulate your way through each one, as you need a break, move down, feeling fresh, move up.
Scott's laid out a few different ideas in the book and mentioned on some of the podcasts how to do this. but the three basic options as far as I see, Frontload, Pyramid up, and Wave. Hope this helps!
RE: FT Questions.... - Scott Stevenson - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 10:07 PM)thethinker48 Wrote: Felt good on tier 1, recovery was good. Almost felt too recovered, so upped a tier.
I've ran tier 2 for 5 weeks last blast, and did make progress in terms of both size and strength, but I hit a wall hard (mostly because the concept of autoregulation with this program was still sinking in).
To add to this: my pump sets are 30-40 reps platz style where you just go until every nerve gives out, do you think this is contributing to the overreaching aspect, and maybe lower intensity here before lowering total volume?
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Could you explain a bit more about how your'e doing the Pump Sets?... (Are the reps still continuous?... Of those, let's say 35 reps, how many are full range of motion reps and how many partials?...)
-S
FT Questions.... - Powerof2 - 03-24-2017
One more question what does the mr(weak) p mean. In turbo tier 2 day 3
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RE: FT Questions.... - Altamir - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 11:32 PM)Powerof2 Wrote: One more question what does the mr(weak) p mean. In turbo tier 2 day 3
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So whatever you need to do the most work for, do a MR for that, for the other do a pump set. So if you need to bring up your hamstrings, do a hamstring MR and a pump set for quads. Reverse if your situation is the opposite.
Here's another point to keep in mind. I'll say for myself, my hamstrings are behind my quads, I try to place as much training focus on them as possible. However, IMO auto-regulation should come first. I've had plenty of times coming into a lower MR session and my hamstrings are busted from the weeks previous work. A MR would honestly be counter productive. I'll do quad MR / hamstring pump and make sure I'm fresh to keep pushing forward in my blast. Besides if they are that toast. I've already got my work in for the week. In my mind I'm ahead of schedule
. So I know and am happy with a great pump set that is going to stimulate growth, push blood into the muscle, but also give it a little break and allow me to push other aspects of my physique.
RE: FT Questions.... - Stewilliams - 03-25-2017
(03-24-2017, 11:56 PM)Altamir Wrote: So whatever you need to do the most work for, do a MR for that, for the other do a pump set. So if you need to bring up your hamstrings, do a hamstring MR and a pump set for quads. Reverse if your situation is the opposite.
Here's another point to keep in mind. I'll say for myself, my hamstrings are behind my quads, I try to place as much training focus on them as possible. However, IMO auto-regulation should come first. I've had plenty of times coming into a lower MR session and my hamstrings are busted from the weeks previous work. A MR would honestly be counter productive. I'll do quad MR / hamstring pump and make sure I'm fresh to keep pushing forward in my blast. Besides if they are that toast. I've already got my work in for the week. In my mind I'm ahead of schedule
Damn I didn't realise this myself! I thought it meant just do a MR on the weak link. Missed out on a pump set for quads (saved me some tears I suppose haha)!
RE: FT Questions.... - Stewilliams - 03-25-2017
What kind of methods should be utitlised for pump sets? For knee extensions (just using them as an example) I've played around slightly and started using a format of 5 full reps, followed by 5 partials then back to 5 full reps and so on. I take this to failure and this week decided to then add eccentric holds on top. So I doubled the weight then used the handle to spot the concentric lift before lowering in as slow and controlled a manner as I could. Are these added eccentric holds overkill or are they the kind of thing that can be utilised? I realise that they will increase muscular damage which may not be desired on a programme with such a high training frequency (especially using the turbo version). Are they be fine to use as its only one all out set? I enjoy implementing them as they're so brutal that they've shown me if I fail to meet the criteria to get into heaven, that hell won't be all that bad anyway haha.