FT Questions....

[Dx2]

Here's my standard approach to these sorts of things. This is not a prescription for you, but just thoughts that I consider when Golfer's elbow is the issue.

Stop doing anything that aggravates it - I can't tell if what you've done has entirely worked around it (meaning no pain whatsoever doing those things) or if you've just managed to find a way to make the training tolerable.

Figure out why you have this and remedy that, too, as much as possible. Is this from some repetitive action at work or something of the like?...

I'd go see an ART (typically a chiropractor or LMT) or a Tui Na (acupuncturist, most likely) or perhaps a medical massage (LMT) practitioner who can work on this. That person may likely prescribe some kind of wrist / finger flexor stretch.

IMO, in treating folks with this (with acupuncture and Tui Na) as well as myself numerous times, that cortisone or PRP is like using a hand grenade to take out a gnat... Way overkill.

One of those practitioners might also prescribe a topical anti-inflammatory like my favorite Kwan Loong Oil. I talk about how one could use that here:

https://www.elitefts.com/education/train...n-warrior/

BCM-95 curcumin (taken on an empty stomach at 400mg) can have systemic anti-inflammatory properties that translates into reduced aches n' pains for many folks.

-S

thx for the fast reply , first of all i did everything to avoid it , then i tried ways to tolerate the pain.

I think that its not from weight training , but rather from work repetitive motions (5years ago a chronic tennis elbow and cystes on my wrist from all day long the same twisting motion and renovating the house , again after work twisting motions)

The problem where i live is that the ortopedic specialist rather do an operation or give you shots then advise a chiropracter or practitioner .Also because of the health care system , you can see specialist , docters etc... and almost every penny is payed back. but when you see an chiropracter or a massage therapist you pay 40$ a visit because its not supported with health care anymore unless with certain motivation from specialist or docter you get 10 visits at low price

Will try and force my way in getting a medical practioner asap

thx !

[Scott Stevenson]

thx for the fast reply , first of all i did everything to avoid it , then i tried ways to tolerate the pain.

I think that its not from weight training , but rather from work repetitive motions (5years ago a chronic tennis elbow and cystes on my wrist from all day long the same twisting motion and renovating the house , again after work twisting motions)

The problem where i live is that the ortopedic specialist rather do an operation or give you shots then advise a chiropracter or practitioner .Also because of the health care system , you can see specialist , docters etc... and almost every penny is payed back. but when you see an chiropracter or a massage therapist you pay 40$ a visit because its not supported with health care anymore unless with certain motivation from specialist or docter you get 10 visits at low price

Will try and force my way in getting a medical practioner asap

thx !

Tough situation if you can't afford to pay out of pocket. Even a few visits could be helpful, as you could get instructions on stretches and other therapies such as topicals, as well as some at work strategies to help you keep from perpetuating the irritation, etc.

-S

[thethinker48]

Hey Scott,

Here's another injury related dilemma; would appreciate your input.

I've been getting a pop in my right shoulder when I raise my arm; not painful in itself, but something's off as I can feel a strain in my right shoulder when I press; I'm concious of this and have limited the ROM on exercises, and am not locking out.

I've gotten decently strong at MR for dips (+45 lbs to +110 lbs) and machine chest press (mid stack to full stack + more). This has produced phenomenal growth in both my triceps and chest; seems like these exercises work really well for me biomechanically. Problem is, the strength increase over the past year has also caused this tweak in my shoulder.

How do you get around working this issue? I really want to keep doing these exercises. Maybe limit ROM or do more sets/reps for MR?

I'm 22, so one of the perks for me is I can usually work around these issues, and the injuries tend to heal as long as I give them rest. Problem is; the stubborn meathead Gene in me always prevents me from completely pulling back. A big reason why I love intense cruises; I can still train full capacity at least twice a week with them.

Any worth in injecting the rats shoulder with some BPC 157 to heal? I've been trying Dantes old broomstick shoulder dislocates and they seem to help a lot; I just need to not overdo them.

Would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you!

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[Scott Stevenson]

Hey Scott,

Here's another injury related dilemma; would appreciate your input.

I've been getting a pop in my right shoulder when I raise my arm; not painful in itself, but something's off as I can feel a strain in my right shoulder when I press; I'm concious of this and have limited the ROM on exercises, and am not locking out.

I've gotten decently strong at MR for dips (+45 lbs to +110 lbs) and machine chest press (mid stack to full stack + more). This has produced phenomenal growth in both my triceps and chest; seems like these exercises work really well for me biomechanically. Problem is, the strength increase over the past year has also caused this tweak in my shoulder.

How do you get around working this issue? I really want to keep doing these exercises. Maybe limit ROM or do more sets/reps for MR?

I'm 22, so one of the perks for me is I can usually work around these issues, and the injuries tend to heal as long as I give them rest. Problem is; the stubborn meathead Gene in me always prevents me from completely pulling back. A big reason why I love intense cruises; I can still train full capacity at least twice a week with them.

Any worth in injecting the rats shoulder with some BPC 157 to heal? I've been trying Dantes old broomstick shoulder dislocates and they seem to help a lot; I just need to not overdo them.

Would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you!

Wish I could do more than play the same old tune here, but really, you'll need to figure out what that pop is in your shoulder, i.e., what structure is popping.

My first guesses would be that it could be a cartilage issue. Secondly, it could be an impingement (supraspinatus or biceps brachii). You'll need to figure out what's wrong before you can go about fixing it.

If the broomstick stretch is helping, in the right measure, that's a good start of course.

Many people with shoulder issues (and other recurring, nagging "niggle-type" injuries) find that they need to do certain pre-hab exercises religiously in order to keep the injury from cropping its ugly head. So, if you can get it under control (some time away from the exercises that give you problem), you may be able to keep it that way (and move to back to those exercises).

So, as always, though, I'd check with a medical practitioner (same sorts of folks as I recommended just a few posts up, including also finding an orthopedist and perhaps an athletic trainer who can help figure out what's going on).

Hope you get it figured out!

(If this helps, I had a nagging pop under my knee cap many years ago that went on for well over a year and kept me from training legs properly. When I finally stayed completely away from doing the things that aggravated it, got the issue under control, I was eventually able to move back to training as I had been. )

-S

[thethinker48]

Wish I could do more than play the same old tune here, but really, you'll need to figure out what that pop is in your shoulder, i.e., what structure is popping.

My first guesses would be that it could be a cartilage issue. Secondly, it could be an impingement (supraspinatus or biceps brachii). You'll need to figure out what's wrong before you can go about fixing it.

If the broomstick stretch is helping, in the right measure, that's a good start of course.

Many people with shoulder issues (and other recurring, nagging "niggle-type" injuries) find that they need to do certain pre-hab exercises religiously in order to keep the injury from cropping its ugly head. So, if you can get it under control (some time away from the exercises that give you problem), you may be able to keep it that way (and move to back to those exercises).

So, as always, though, I'd check with a medical practitioner (same sorts of folks as I recommended just a few posts up, including also finding an orthopedist and perhaps an athletic trainer who can help figure out what's going on).

Hope you get it figured out!

(If this helps, I had a nagging pop under my knee cap many years ago that went on for well over a year and kept me from training legs properly. When I finally stayed completely away from doing the things that aggravated it, got the issue under control, I was eventually able to move back to training as I had been. )

-S

Thank you!

I read this and forgot to respond to it.

It's a lot better now. I've started pressing a lot slower and stayed away from heavy direct shoulder presses.

Still beating the logbook on dips MRs [emoji3]...

This cruise I just started should help a lot with recovery. I know what exercise caused it to tbh.

It was the machine chest press which I got up to doing an entire stack+ for a MR, and gave me fantastic growth. I want to get back to this exercise post cruise hopefully...

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[Scott Stevenson]

Thank you!

I read this and forgot to respond to it.

It's a lot better now. I've started pressing a lot slower and stayed away from heavy direct shoulder presses.

Still beating the logbook on dips MRs [emoji3]...

This cruise I just started should help a lot with recovery. I know what exercise caused it to tbh.

It was the machine chest press which I got up to doing an entire stack+ for a MR, and gave me fantastic growth. I want to get back to this exercise post cruise hopefully...

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You're welcome! Glad you're back on track!

(I'd still try figure you what that that chest press machine was doing so you can prevent it. )

-S

[Flexhanney101]

Looking for help.. I’m currently running basic at teir 2 . I train first thing before work as I’m a family man and have to be home at nights. But for the next few weeks I have to start earlier in work meaning I’m only going to get 30 mins in the gym from opening time to time I have to leave 45 mins max. Will dropping to teir 1 for the next 3 months or so be my only option? Will less volume affect my progress. Also so I up my eaa and maltdextrin which I use for perk as from time I train to next meal time will be 3 hours or shal I get my intra in as normal and eat as I drive ?

[Scott Stevenson]

Looking for help.. I’m currently running basic at teir 2 . I train first thing before work as I’m a family man and have to be home at nights. But for the next few weeks I have to start earlier in work meaning I’m only going to get 30 mins in the gym from opening time to time I have to leave 45 mins max. Will dropping to teir 1 for the next 3 months or so be my only option? Will less volume affect my progress. Also so I up my eaa and maltdextrin which I use for perk as from time I train to next meal time will be 3 hours or shal I get my intra in as normal and eat as I drive ?

Are you following the Family Man Plan?... (Wondering if you only have weekday mornings to train or if you can train on the weekends. There is the possibility of spreading the workouts out over the 5 weekdays.)

-S

[Flexhanney101]

Are you following the Family Man Plan?... (Wondering if you only have weekday mornings to train or if you can train on the weekends. There is the possibility of spreading the workouts out over the 5 weekdays.)

-S

I’m not following the family man plan mate. My normal days I train is Monday Tuesday ,( loading and pump). Thursday and Friday ( mr) as I can’t train on weekends.

[Flexhanney101]

I’m not following the family man plan mate. My normal days I train is Monday Tuesday ,( loading and pump). Thursday and Friday ( mr) as I can’t train on weekends.

Also Scott how would you say would be the best to split the sessions across 5 days .
Thanks for reply btw