10-05-2017, 05:43 AM
(10-01-2017, 12:22 AM)Scott Stevenson Wrote: I'd not be a fan of intentionally performing a power training moving (high pulls are about power development) when intentionally in a fatigued situation that come from doing a MR. There is injury risk here and of course a lack of eccentric loading, too, as you mention.Awesome, this is what I had kind of come to grips with and was just a "hope" that it may fit since I have really good response to them.
Plyometrics, power cleans, snatch variations, high pulls, etc. are movements that are focused on training the CNS, not the muscular system. You're not going to optimizing that training effect either when or rather if (as I'm not suggesting you do this) you practice those movements in a fatigued state. This would be like trying to get better at sprinting by doing sprints right after running a mile or trying to get better at throwing a fast ball by practicing right after doing a weight training circuit for the arms.
Velocitiy specificity of training dictates adaptations here: Studies have been done with, for instance, weighted bats (with the notion of creating a tensile overload) that actually find that loading up the baseball bat slows swing speed and alters mechanics which then results in slower bat speed when swinging a normal bat.
-S
What you are saying regarding the purpose of the movement makes complete sense, and I wasn't really thinking of doing them for speed so much as a builder due to my response to them.
I think I read in here that others found that they were able to do Upright Rows for MR even though doing them for a straight set often caused problems. I think I will give them a shot to see if they cause me any issues in the MR. If not that would be great because I used to respond really well to them before my shoulders and elbows started acting up.
That movement pattern just really lights up my delts and traps better than a lot of exercises.