07-07-2021, 05:22 PM
Hey guys,
I am pretty new here on this board and finished the Fortitude book yesterday. Currently, I am on the 2-way DC split and I ask myself if Dc is missing important aspects of hyerptrohpy - especially for natural guys?
DC is all about loading sets with rest pauses and tons of failure points + extreme stretching. With Fortitude we have more metabolic work and more not-to-failure sets + higher freuquency.
But if I took a look at the total workload Fortitude seems to be even lower in volume as DC and I am afriad if I would lose gains or progress slower as with the 2-way.
For example the push-chain with DC
We have a chest press, shoulder press and triceps press
= 3 x 3 rest pauses and that's around 9 sets with lot's of effective reps for triceps I would say.
In Fortitude it looks different: We have on a Tier II on the Basic the following
Loading set chest + loading set chest iso, same for shoulders
pump set chest 1 push and 1 iso, maybe shoulders 1 push to, triceps 1 set
muscle rounds 2 chest presses, maybe a third shoulder press and 1 triceps
= that's 2 loading sets wit 2 failure points, 1-3 pump sets and 3-4 muscle rounds with 3-4 failure points
here we have 6-9 sets of lot's of effective reps for triceps
So we have every week in Fortitude 6-9 sets for triceps and I count it as direct work bc of my close-medium grips and the effort for each set. Same goes with DC, but in Dc we have 9 sets every workout and we do this every other week twice. So we could say we have 13,5 sets of effective reps for triceps each week.
-> and that's around twice as much as in Fortitude
I hope this topic would'nt discuss before . And to make it clear, I love the ebook by Scott, it has so much great info in there. Scott is a true mastermind and training to failure + low volume is the way I love and need to train!
I am looking foreward to this discussion !
I am pretty new here on this board and finished the Fortitude book yesterday. Currently, I am on the 2-way DC split and I ask myself if Dc is missing important aspects of hyerptrohpy - especially for natural guys?
DC is all about loading sets with rest pauses and tons of failure points + extreme stretching. With Fortitude we have more metabolic work and more not-to-failure sets + higher freuquency.
But if I took a look at the total workload Fortitude seems to be even lower in volume as DC and I am afriad if I would lose gains or progress slower as with the 2-way.
For example the push-chain with DC
We have a chest press, shoulder press and triceps press
= 3 x 3 rest pauses and that's around 9 sets with lot's of effective reps for triceps I would say.
In Fortitude it looks different: We have on a Tier II on the Basic the following
Loading set chest + loading set chest iso, same for shoulders
pump set chest 1 push and 1 iso, maybe shoulders 1 push to, triceps 1 set
muscle rounds 2 chest presses, maybe a third shoulder press and 1 triceps
= that's 2 loading sets wit 2 failure points, 1-3 pump sets and 3-4 muscle rounds with 3-4 failure points
here we have 6-9 sets of lot's of effective reps for triceps
So we have every week in Fortitude 6-9 sets for triceps and I count it as direct work bc of my close-medium grips and the effort for each set. Same goes with DC, but in Dc we have 9 sets every workout and we do this every other week twice. So we could say we have 13,5 sets of effective reps for triceps each week.
-> and that's around twice as much as in Fortitude
I hope this topic would'nt discuss before . And to make it clear, I love the ebook by Scott, it has so much great info in there. Scott is a true mastermind and training to failure + low volume is the way I love and need to train!
I am looking foreward to this discussion !