New to FT - Question regarding frequency

[xxxlviking]

Hi all, hope you are doing good and I'm stoked to be part of the forum. My insta is @cswann89 if anyone wants to follow!

I'm a 28 year old bodybuilder, competed numerous times. I'm 6 foot 2, stage weight was 230lbs a few weeks back. Got another show in a few weeks!

This year I've not been allowed to compete as a novice anymore so been doing shows with the big boys, and although I placed runner up last week the feedback I had was I need to be bigger. I think I'm going to run fortitude training for my next push for size after my shows are done however I have a question regarding frequency.

I purchased the virgin voyager program and love the look of it, think I will run the basic tier 1 program to start.... However I feel like only being in the gym 4 days a week is not enough frequency for me. 2 rest days in a row would kill me.

I've traditionally done a 3 on 1 off rotation (push pull legs rest repeat) so I don't have 'set days' per se for training. (I.e Monday could be push one week and the next Monday would be a rest day) I quite like this as I have the luxury of being able to train whenever I want 7 days a week.

Question: would it be feasible for me to run the FT program as follows:
Lower load upper pump// upper load lower pump//rest // upper Mr// lower Mr// rest // repeat

This would mean the frequency is slightly increased from the basic program but I'm still getting in the gym as often as I'd like. I really struggle with taking 2 rest days in a row!

I feel like I'd still grow off this. I'm quite a big dude and strong already so i feel like the slightly increased frequency could be handled.

Thanks for any response guys ❤️

[flairsjobber]

There isn't 2 days rest in a row the way the program is laid out. A typical layout for me is Tuesday Lower load/upper pump, rest. Thursday Upper load/lower pump, rest, Saturday lower MR, Sunday upper MR, rest

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[xxxlviking]

There isn't 2 days rest in a row the way the program is laid out. A typical layout for me is Tuesday Lower load/upper pump, rest. Thursday Upper load/lower pump, rest, Saturday lower MR, Sunday upper MR, rest

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Thanks dude I realise now I worded my original post kind of wrong. I meant I didn't want to take more than 2 rest days a week so I was hoping to sort of condense the cycle down by cutting out the rest day in-between the loading days, or would that hamper recovery too bad?

[flairsjobber]

Honestly I think your underestimating just how demanding this program is. It looks so easy on paper. But if your putting 100 % effort into every set, your body will need the 3 days rest. Of course it's your call, but from personal experience I'd say you will burn out rather quickly if you go that route. Either way. Glad to have you on the forum.

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[xxxlviking]

Honestly I think your underestimating just how demanding this program is. It looks so easy on paper. But if your putting 100 % effort into every set, your body will need the 3 days rest. Of course it's your call, but from personal experience I'd say you will burn out rather quickly if you go that route. Either way. Glad to have you on the forum.

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Haha. Yeah true man, I'm just gonna get stuck into it and see how I get on!

One more question (just to be really irritating!) I was unsure regarding the turbo tier differences in muscle round days. Does going up to the turbo tier mean you do full body muscle rounds on the two MR days? I really couldn't decipher this from the diagram and explanation in the e-book.

Thanks!

[Altamir]

I agree that sticking with the 4 day template is best. Just so if you want to adjust you could. And to your credit, as a bigger/stronger guy, you are going to need MORE rest from this program, not less.

As far as turbo versus basic. Yes, on the MR days for turbo you do full body. I typically run turbo, and have quite a few blasts logged in my training log if you want to check out and see the difference. I am currently running basic for recovery issues. But most of my previous blasts have been turbo.

[xxxlviking]

I agree that sticking with the 4 day template is best. Just so if you want to adjust you could. And to your credit, as a bigger/stronger guy, you are going to need MORE rest from this program, not less.

As far as turbo versus basic. Yes, on the MR days you do full body. I typically run turbo, and have quite a few blasts logged in my training log if you want to check out and see the difference. I am currently running basic for recovery issues. But most of my previous blasts have been turbo.

Thanks Altamir, Going to have a read through your log now buddy =)

Appreciate all the advice!

[Scott Stevenson]

Thanks to flairsjobber and Altamir for hopping in here to help.

Haha. Yeah true man, I'm just gonna get stuck into it and see how I get on!

One more question (just to be really irritating!) I was unsure regarding the turbo tier differences in muscle round days. Does going up to the turbo tier mean you do full body muscle rounds on the two MR days? I really couldn't decipher this from the diagram and explanation in the e-book.

Thanks!

Thanks Altamir, Going to have a read through your log now buddy =)

Appreciate all the advice!

Altamir's got a great log.

Do you have the Overview Sheets, XXXL?... (The are free to download and print out - same place you picked up the book. You might have missed it though if you got the book via the VV Program.) You'l be able to compare Basic vs. Turbo, Tier by Tier.

https://fortitudetraining.e-junkie.com

-Scott

[xxxlviking]

Thanks to flairsjobber and Altamir for hopping in here to help.




Altamir's got a great log.

Do you have the Overview Sheets, XXXL?... (The are free to download and print out - same place you picked up the book. You might have missed it though if you got the book via the VV Program.) You'l be able to compare Basic vs. Turbo, Tier by Tier.

https://fortitudetraining.e-junkie.com

-Scott

Thanks for the reply Scott! Those overview sheets explain the differences clearly, that's great. I'm going to start with the basic anyways before moving to turbo. I am thinking the extra rest will help me put on the tissue I need and allow me to keep breaking PRs! Will start a log on here when I'm done with shows to cover my fortitude rebound