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First blast! Any tips/recomendations are welcome - henke_prytz - 09-21-2018 Hi guys I am about to start my first blast using FT. I have been using DC for about 2 years now and have absolutely loved it. But I have always had my eye on FT and thought it is about time I give it a go. So I have outlined a Tier 2 simply to get my head around it and I will start week 1 with the Tier 1 as recommended. But are there any obvious flaws that I have missed in my planning? Any input would be greatly appreciated!!! And also thank you Scott for all this information that you have created and I must say that I really like the look and thought behind this program, so thank you very much Fortitude training TIER 2 Basic Week 1 Day 1 Tier 2 Lower Load Upper Pump Lower Load Zig-zag Thigh,Quad, Ham together Thigh 2x6-12 Quad 1x6-12 - Ham 1x6-12 Adductors 1 RPx 15-20 Calf 4x6-12 Upper pump (supersets/giant sets, intensity techniques) Chest/Back 2x15-25 (2 different exercises each 1 set each) Shoulder/Abs 2x15-25 (2 different exercises each 1 set each) Bi/Tri 1x15-25 (1 exersice each, 1 sets each) Week 1 Day 2 Tier 2 Upper Load Lower Pump Upper Load Zig-zag Back, Chest, Delts individually (Compound + Iso) Back 3x6-12 Chest 2x6-12 Shoulders 2x6-12 Lower Pump (supersets/giant sets, intensity techniques) Thigh 2x15-25 Quad/Ham 1x15-25 (1exersice each, 1 set each) Calf x1 (not included in Superset) Thigh, Quad, Hams done as one giant set plus added intensity techniques Week 1 Day 3 Tier 2 Lower Muscle Rounds Thigh 2xMR (2 different exercises, 1 set each) Quad 1xMR Ham 1xMR Calf 2xMR (2 different exercises, 1 set each maybe due to equipment??? ) Biceps 1xMR Forearms – Abs (optional)1xMR Week 1 Day 4 Tier 1 Upper Muscle Rounds Back Thickness 1-2xMR (1-2 different exercises, 1 set each) Back Width 1-2xMR (1-2 different exercises, 1 set each) Chest 2xMR (2 different exercises, 1 set each) Shoulders 2xMR (2 different exercises, 1 set each) Triceps 1xMR My picks for Load Exercises A Week 1 Lower Load Thigh Front Squat Quad BB Summersault squat (raised heel) Ham Standing Leg Curl Adductor Add. Machine Calf Seated Calf raises A Week 1 Upper Load Back Width Rack chins Back Thickness BB rows Chest Decline BB Bench Press ISO Cable crossover Shoulders Seated BB OH Press ISO BB Upright rows B Week 2 Lower Load Thigh BB Squat Quad DB sissy squat Ham Seated leg curl Adductor Add. Cable 1 leg Calf Leg press Calf raises B Week 2 Upper Load Back Width Pulldowns parallel Back Thickness T-bar rows Chest Plate loaded incline Press ISO Pec Dec Shoulders Plate loaded Press ISO Cable Side raises C Week 3 Lower Load Thigh Leg press Quad Leg ext Ham Decline DB curl Adductor Add. Machine paused Calf Machine Calf raises C Week 3 Upper Load Back Width Pull Ups Back Thickness Rack Deadlift Chest Incline BB Press ISO Incline DB fly Shoulders Machine Press ISO Db side raises There it is. I hope this is a good outline and exercise choice. I have based most of the exercises on what equipment my gym has and also what I can get to easily. If you guys have any feedback I would love to hear it. And as I said I will start with Tier 1 but if I want to jump up a Tier then I want to have it planned out before Thanks guys RE: First blast! Any tips/recomendations are welcome - ebado - 09-22-2018 Exercise selection looks good to me. Good job starting out on tier 1 as recommended. My advice is to make sure you're really firing on all cylinders and getting the most out of each and every set before moving up in volume tier. As an experienced DC trainer, you might be able to generate enough intensity to milk tier 1 for a while! RE: First blast! Any tips/recomendations are welcome - Scott Stevenson - 09-22-2018 Henke, You're welcome! I'd take a closer look at how you're coupling Thigh Loading set exercises. Sommersault squats are done on a smith machine (not BB), so you'd want to do smith front squats very possibly that day. If you're doing DB sissy squats, I'd also do DB ham curls that day as well. I'd not do unilateral (standing) hamstring curls as a loading set, unless you are sure you'll put them at the end of the Loading sets and are maybe intentionally doing them this way b/c your'e got a substantial hamstring (left-right) imbalance. -S RE: First blast! Any tips/recomendations are welcome - henke_prytz - 09-22-2018 (09-22-2018, 12:01 AM)ebado Wrote: Exercise selection looks good to me. Good job starting out on tier 1 as recommended. My advice is to make sure you're really firing on all cylinders and getting the most out of each and every set before moving up in volume tier. As an experienced DC trainer, you might be able to generate enough intensity to milk tier 1 for a while! Thank you for the tip. I will def make sure I exhaust Tier 1 before moving up!!! RE: First blast! Any tips/recomendations are welcome - henke_prytz - 09-22-2018 (09-22-2018, 03:22 AM)Scott Stevenson Wrote: Henke, Thank you for your input Scott. I def see what you're saying. The biggest reason for my choice of exercises is due to a very crappy selection of equipment (my gym doesn't have a smith machine only a "freedom rack"). So I was planning on doing the Sommersaults with a BB since I saw that being done (video showed very light weight though) but I am open for other ideas maybe some Anderson squats here but that might not be a "quad" movement. And regarding the standing ham curls I might switch them for fetal curls instead if that would be a better option because I don't really have substantial imbalance so I'll go for something more compound, thanks. Thank you so much for the input and it has already been taken on board RE: First blast! Any tips/recomendations are welcome - Scott Stevenson - 09-23-2018 (09-22-2018, 07:15 PM)henke_prytz Wrote: Thank you for your input Scott. I def see what you're saying. The biggest reason for my choice of exercises is due to a very crappy selection of equipment (my gym doesn't have a smith machine only a "freedom rack"). You're welcome! You could change your foot position substantially on the leg press for a variation there. I'd pick up a hip squat belt from ironmind.com, which will give you a load of other exercise options, including lap squats. You could do a leg press and then use a SLDL as your ham isolation exercise, maybe with DB's. (This is typically easy to add in as the DB's will be heavy and not in use, so you'd not even need to drag them over to the L. press) If this is the freedom rack you mean, it's a great piece of equipment, IMO: Star Trac Max Rack | Star Trac -S RE: First blast! Any tips/recomendations are welcome - henke_prytz - 09-23-2018 (09-23-2018, 02:00 AM)Scott Stevenson Wrote: You're welcome! I have been looking at the lap squats as a really good option. I will have to look into getting one of those belts!!! Could you use a dip belt and hook two carbiners to either side of the belt where the chain attaches and attach some straps to it that way??? I might have to try that For now, though I may have to go with the leg press option you're referring to. I'm afraid the db STLD are not really an option due to my gym has db's that go up to 32,5 kg. I will keep these comments and ideas in the back of my mind for when I move on to a more equipped gym and can program things exactly how I want to. And yes that is the exact model we have. I have honestly had a bit of a hard time making a good use of it. The gym doesn't have a rack or a smith only this. So I have had to become very clever in what exercises to do and how to do them. Now after 2 years I have learned to appreciate this machine but it's still not free weights haha. Again thank you so much for the input and I will def make the changes suggested. RE: First blast! Any tips/recomendations are welcome - Scott Stevenson - 09-24-2018 (09-23-2018, 06:03 AM)henke_prytz Wrote: I have been looking at the lap squats as a really good option. I will have to look into getting one of those belts!!! Could you use a dip belt and hook two carbiners to either side of the belt where the chain attaches and attach some straps to it that way??? I might have to try that For now, though I may have to go with the leg press option you're referring to. I'm afraid the db STLD are not really an option due to my gym has db's that go up to 32,5 kg. I will keep these comments and ideas in the back of my mind for when I move on to a more equipped gym and can program things exactly how I want to. I'd not try to use a dip belt for lap squats - the bar needs to be as high on the thighs as possible and some dip belts aren't made to handle that much weight. Also, you'll need large mouth carabiners that will fill around a bar, ideally. You could use BB SLDL. Quote:And yes that is the exact model we have. I have honestly had a bit of a hard time making a good use of it. The gym doesn't have a rack or a smith only this. So I have had to become very clever in what exercises to do and how to do them. Now after 2 years I have learned to appreciate this machine but it's still not free weights haha. You're welcome! You can put a barbell in the frame the freedom rack and use both a free free bar and the bar on runners, even if you wanted to load two bars, lets say to do a OH press and a CG row for Loading sets. (Or you could just use the rack and leave the guided bar racked and out of the way on the opposite side of the rack.) You might even be able to set the safeties in place an do squats on one end and use a free bar on the other side to do SLDL's, with the bar starting from a racked position off the floor (below the safeties). -S RE: First blast! Any tips/recomendations are welcome - henke_prytz - 09-24-2018 (09-24-2018, 09:53 AM)Scott Stevenson Wrote: I'd not try to use a dip belt for lap squats - the bar needs to be as high on the thighs as possible and some dip belts aren't made to handle that much weight. Also, you'll need large mouth carabiners that will fill around a bar, ideally. Thanks for the tip on dip belts as I would def have tried it and racked my head as to why it doesn't work haha. Plus I might have broken my belt. Using the rack height to use different exercises is something I've never thought of and will def try. I have been doing the free weight squats in the rack and it worked pretty well until reaching heavier all-out sets where it has felt a bit unsafe at times to re-rack the weight since I need to create a bit of space between the stopper and the plate and set the weight down unevenly in the rack as the barbell is to narrow to fit the rack. But it have certainly been doable and I've used it this way for 2 odd years What is it they say about not having equipment makes you think outside the box haha. I found another variation of squats too that I thought looked kinda nice. Have you tried landmine belt squats for quads? They look easy to set up and they look like they can create a decent load for the quads. And if done with a raised heel maybe even more? What do you think? RE: First blast! Any tips/recomendations are welcome - henke_prytz - 10-01-2018 Hey Scott so just one more question regarding diet. Being a vegetarian and getting my protein from legumes for 2 of my meals. And the rest from vegan protein powders and eggs. Would you make any alterations to the overall amount of protein? What amount of protein would you go with? I've been doing my diet based on Dante's recommendations of 2xbodyweight in Lbs would you keep that number the same or go lower? This is my current diet: Meal 1: Measurement Calories Protein Carbs Fats Whole egg 4 296 25 1,4 20 Oats 60g 204 8 40 3,5 Banana 1 121 1,4 31 0,4 PB 30g 178,8 9 3,6 13,8 Lemon water + applecider vinegar Multi Total meal 1 799,8 43,4 76 37,7 Meal 2: Measurement Calories Protein Carbs Fats Protein pulver 100g 391 75 6,25 7,5 Total meal 391 75 6,25 7,5 Intra-Workout Measurement Calories Protein Carbs Fats Dextrose 3 Scoops 230 90 Creatine 5g EAA 20g 10 Total intra 230 10 90 0 Meal 3: Measurement Calories Protein Carbs Fats Red/Green Lentils 500g 660 45 120 3,75 Veggies Total Meal 660 45 120 3,75 Meal 4: Post workout Measurement Calories Protein Carbs Fats Protein pulver 100g 391 75 6,25 7,5 Oats 60g 204 8 40 3,5 Banana 1 121 1,4 31 0,4 Total Meal 920 92,4 117,25 15,4 Meal 5: Measurement Calories Protein Carbs Fats Black beans 500g 660 45 120 3,75 Veggies 50g - - - - Total Meal 660 45 120 3,75 Meal 6: carb cutoff meal Measurement Calories Protein Carbs Fats Protein pulver 100g 391 75 6,25 7,5 PB 30g 178,8 9 3,6 13,8 Total meal 6 569,8 84 9,85 21,3 Total Day Measurement Calories Protein Carbs Fats Sum of all meals 4230,6 394,8 499,35 89,4 Real cal 4541,2 1579,2 2157,4 804,6 |