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Back off "supplements" during intensive cruise?
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(02-23-2017, 01:32 PM)thethinker48 Wrote: A lot of guys that do Fortitude training usually decrease their supplementation during the "cruise"/deload phase. Wouldn't maintaining higher blood levels in the rat during this time period contribute to more growth as your body overcompensates for the stress you've provided it in the past 5-6 weeks?

Or would it make more sense to lower the dosages on the rat (which might invariably lead to reduced strength during the Muscle rounds?).

Thanks a lot Scott! Fortitude training is one nasty, and painful invention that works incredibly well.

Here comes the "rat" talk! LOL If you start mentioning DVDs, I'm banning your ass... LOL

Let's just presume you live in Mexico, Canada or the UK.

SO, this is has been point of contention for years, as Dante (DC) has generically recommended that folks do a mini PCT during a DC training cruise. The argument against this is that you'd not nearly have enough time to restore endogenous output. This could in part be b/c most guys would be using long acting (injectable) compounds which woudl still be active during a 2 week period during a cruise, inhibiting the HPTA. OTOH, one could plan blasts with short acting compounds such that this lingering inhibition were not an issue, but that could be a bit of a juggling act as the blast duration can vary and the need to cruise might just sneak up on someone (without a few weeks' warning).


The argument for this super-supplement "cruise" is that one would be reducing the toxicity load and by using things like HCG, restoring testicular mass to some degree and thus aiding the possibility of a true PCT down the road when someone does cycle "off." (Compare someone who never does this with someone who presumably maintains testicular mass and gonadotrophin responsiveness by interjecting these mini-PCT periods.)

There is also the possibility the "off" periods could restore sensitivity to super supplements when one goes back "on."

Of course, being supplemented during a cruise would aid in recovery.

However, with the rebounding effect of the intermittent cruise, this might off-set the negative impact of being off, so it comes down (once again) to a balancing act that would depend on this individual's and his ability to auto-regulate.

(Some would also use HRT / lower dodges during a cruise period, which of course would be kind of an intermediate between a true "off" period... This would limit any restorative effect, both in terms of HPTA recovery and responsiveness to super-supplements.)

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This ultimately comes down to how an individual personally prioritizes (endocrine) health vs. whatever enhancement in gains he things would come from being on full time during he cruises, as well as how he plans super-supp. use during the course of he year.

For example, one might plan to stay on for 2 blasts (and during he cruise between them) and then be off for two blasts, doing a "proper" PCT. (This would follow the old rule of thumb of off time being equivalent to on time.)

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RE: Back off "supplements" during intensive cruise? - by Scott Stevenson - 02-24-2017, 01:00 AM

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