Back off "supplements" during intensive cruise?

[thethinker48]

Here comes the "rat" talk! LOL If you start mentioning DVDs, I'm banning your ass... LOL

Let's just presume you live in Mexico, Canada or the UK.

SO, this is has been point of contention for years, as Dante (DC) has generically recommended that folks do a mini PCT during a DC training cruise. The argument against this is that you'd not nearly have enough time to restore endogenous output. This could in part be b/c most guys would be using long acting (injectable) compounds which woudl still be active during a 2 week period during a cruise, inhibiting the HPTA. OTOH, one could plan blasts with short acting compounds such that this lingering inhibition were not an issue, but that could be a bit of a juggling act as the blast duration can vary and the need to cruise might just sneak up on someone (without a few weeks' warning).


The argument for this super-supplement "cruise" is that one would be reducing the toxicity load and by using things like HCG, restoring testicular mass to some degree and thus aiding the possibility of a true PCT down the road when someone does cycle "off." (Compare someone who never does this with someone who presumably maintains testicular mass and gonadotrophin responsiveness by interjecting these mini-PCT periods.)

There is also the possibility the "off" periods could restore sensitivity to super supplements when one goes back "on."

Of course, being supplemented during a cruise would aid in recovery.

However, with the rebounding effect of the intermittent cruise, this might off-set the negative impact of being off, so it comes down (once again) to a balancing act that would depend on this individual's and his ability to auto-regulate.

(Some would also use HRT / lower dodges during a cruise period, which of course would be kind of an intermediate between a true "off" period... This would limit any restorative effect, both in terms of HPTA recovery and responsiveness to super-supplements.)

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This ultimately comes down to how an individual personally prioritizes (endocrine) health vs. whatever enhancement in gains he things would come from being on full time during he cruises, as well as how he plans super-supp. use during the course of he year.

For example, one might plan to stay on for 2 blasts (and during he cruise between them) and then be off for two blasts, doing a "proper" PCT. (This would follow the old rule of thumb of off time being equivalent to on time.)

-S

Haha.

Thanks a lot for your input! The big reason why I ask this is because holding a bodyweight for a certain period of time is I think important for those trying to accrue lbm as fast as possible. I remember the one time I did a DC blast, gained 9 lbs over 10 weeks, reduced calories/"usage amount" for a few weeks during cruise, and lost weight and strength rather quickly (short ester usage). I should've held onto that bodyweight for a period of time to establish some semblance of homeostasis.

For those of us who aren't concerned with "coming off" (the HPTA has been compromised a lot at this point, and constant swings where full restoral won't even take place kind of defeats the purpose), the big question would be where does one draw the line in terms of reducing usage, and maintaining strength (which is paramount, and necessary for the MRs).

Oh well, this isn't something I'll figure out in 1 FT blast. Maybe 10 blasts from now I might have a small answer for myself